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grinder, the wife and I would love to move to Maine. But the key is needing a job to pay the bills. I've sort of looked, but can't get serious until after the baby shows up.
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Ncrunch32 tell your wife happy birthday from us. Grinder the state of Maine must love you - you're one of their best salesmen.
As Dorothy says - "there's no place like home". I guess this counrty is big enough that you can find what you want, where you want, at the price you want. You just have to be patient in your search, open minded, be willing to move, and decide what conviences you can do with and without.
My wife tells me that if we ever move again that we're picking up the house and taking it with us. We've moved a few times, mostly when we were young at the beginning of our marriage but we've been in our home going on 21 years. I'm already 450 miles from my family and getting to see them once or maybe twice a year is tough and getting tougher as the folks are getting older.
So if I had to move it would be closer, not further, to them but, I don't see that happening. If you make your house your HOME (there is a difference) it becomes part of your family, you put roots down in the community, you find new "family" in your friends. It all depends on what you want.
I have to agree with funchy - "stupid #%#$% suburban sprawl". But that is progress - if that is what you want to call it. We have spoiled ourselves and want everything instantly. Heck even up in the semi populated areas of Maine you can't turn the corner without running into a wally world.
I had the oppurtunity to transfer several years ago with my company from MA to AZ. There were numerous opportunities as they were transfering some of the product from here to there. But they were having a tough time filling the openings. They offered free weekends out there to check things out all expenses paid. They lowered the agreement to stay there from 2 years to 1 year. They offered 6 months salary as a bonus to move there. I told her we should just check it out, for the free weekend, as I had no desire to move to AZ. She told me that she hoped me and my new wife would be happy.
Whatever you do - don't leave the better half out of the equation.
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Actually I know people that would shoot me for broadcasting it.
I was fortunate enough to escape a shit hole, I will take the changing seasons anytime.
Almost 50 degrees and bright sun. It will be back to zero next week so I'm going for a walk.
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You can find almost anything you want anywhere for your little heaven. Just depends on what you want. I prefer smaller areas myself. I'd like to live in Maine. At least away from the southeast area which gets bad during tourist season.
course, I'd also like to live in Wyoming or Montana, northwestern Wisconsin, or near Duluth, Alaska, the UP of Michigan, etc. The wife and I like changing seasons and we actually like snow in winter. It makes it easier to see the deer (so you can avoid them) and covers the dog turds.
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funchy, man O man can I sympathize and identify with you on this point!!! I feel crowded on 25 acres and one neighbor so I did exactly what you are talking about. We are selling our current place and in the process of moving to the ranch. It is an old cattle ranch that got into financial trouble after the owner died. 261 acres of God's beautiful planet with several more acres near by in large tracts of land. I figure if I can see, hear, or smell you, that is waaaaaaaaaay to close to be neighbors. I have become VERY accustomed to being able to walk out into any part of the yard to liesurely & stress freely dispose of processed beer, coffee, and the occasional Captain Morgan. It is also difficult to describe how enjoyable it is to be able to watch the the resident wild turkey flock (about 30) on the lower 40 river bottom pasture. Deer, hawks, eagles, coyotes, all over. Only about 7500 people in the entire county. Keep looking and be persistent although you will have to take into account that many areas such as this are severely economically despressed and jobs are scarce. My goal is to become a professional recluse and hermit. ;o) I can make you a nice deal on our place that is up for sale now if you are interested.
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grinder, please don't encourage people to move here. I can tell you are from away, if you were a true Mainer you wouldn't be telling others that it's nice living here. It was nice here in Maine before the tourism push, then people from away realized what type of life style we Mainers had, NOW almost half the population is from away and most of them brought they're big attitudes with them. I can remember when you could trust people, hell you could leave your car unlocked with a load of valuables in it and no-one would think of touching it. If people from away keep moving here, then we won't have the way of life they thought was so great then would we.
David
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David, the sad thing is that what you speak of is happening all over the country. I carry a side arm at ALL times around the ranch as there are the folks who like to make methamphetamine. Just last week we had our first gun battle in the new neighborhood. I hate to sound cold or insensitive but a sizeable portion of our country's population needs to be "culled".
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Yeah here in southern NH today it was around 50°F and Sunny! It was even nice to just bring the trash to the transfer station. I know what you mean about all the nice places to live like MN, WI, Alaska (AK?), the UP of MI but, since we aren't moving I just try to visit those types of places - though I haven't got to any of them yet,
My wife and me both love the 4 seasons, fall is my favorite, and I love the snow - I tell my daughters its because I was born in Feb.
No place is perfect - some of us may just be lucker than others in finding close to what they consider to be. Even with all of its warts this is still the greatest country to live in. Heck even in my own little piece of almost suburban spawl running thru my yard I have all the usual suspects and deer, coyote, black bear, moose, fishers, etc. Here in New Hampshire I can even carry concealed if I want to. I think the permit is very easy to get. My wife grew up kinda country - well way more country suburbs than city. She still doesn't lock the car doors at home - except maybe I've convinced her to at night. Me, I grew up in a big city. I even lock the cars when they're in the driveway during the day. When we first moved out of the city many moons ago, when we were first married, I stepped outside at night and said where the hell are the street lights. I mean it wasn't like I was in the woods when I was camping. I was at home - it was supposed to be bright and noisy.
I guess where ever you hang your hat is home. :o)
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Land in WV is fairly cheap; the rule of thumb is $1000/ac. for meadow land. Timber prices fluctuate, so I'm not sure what forest land is bringing these days.
Finding a job presents a problem, though.
In my experience, you have to have enough land to really isolate yourself to experience the "peace and quiet". We have 6 acres where our house is and 20 acres on the family farm. Everybody that goes by has a loud exhaust system on their truck; the Harley guys with straight pipes; ATV's running up and down the road; and my favorite, the dumba$$ neighbors that shoot in their back yard. 20 acres isn't enough to get away from all that. I've always been sensitive to noise, and it is just getting worse as I get older. I'm starting to think I'd be better off in a subdivision in town, just take the tractors up to the farm and leave them.
Good luck,
Bill
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Funchy: Here in north east Iowa the timbered aerias within 30 miles of a major employment city are getting scarce. Some of these aerias that were considered almost worthless 30 yrs. ago after the loggers cleaned out all the good virgin timber now are full of 5 - 10 acre lots with half million dollar homes on them. I know this isn't what you are after, so to find a large enough secluded farm in the midwest you'll have to get away from major citys. We consider 75 to 100,000 a major city, but I realize that on the east and west coast they would be considered a small town. The hometown I grew up next to had 500 people. Frank.
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