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I don't know where your from but . check into morton buildings . we've had one since 1964 . they know what pole barns are about. www.mortonbuildings.com best buildings around!!!!!
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New York, and I have seen them around here. I had completely forgotten about them. I currently have two estimates on the way...and will try Morton as well. I love all the under the floor ideas I have read here. This forum is priceless.
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If you use google.com to search on radiant floor heating you will find tons of info about it. I plan to place tubing in my floors. Far as I can tell, the nicest way to heat any building. I know they (inspectors) gave my brother some trouble about his drains...and he had to build an oil/grease trap. We are in New York state.
Glad to hear Roger suggested the "pit". My father dug one of these be hand in his existing garage...and it is wonderful. To build one from the get-go...now that would be sweet. Maybe an outlet in the pit?
Bruce
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Here is a link at the THE JOURNAL OF LIGHT CONSTRUCTION re hot water tank based radient heating system. It has no provision for a hot water tap. Here is the url for cut & paste if the link doen't work ( I think the link puts in 2 "http://" if you're not carefull and corrupts the address if you use cut & paste to transfer the url to " Include a Link URL". I'd appreciate the Webmaster's comments)
http://www.jlconline.com/jlc/archive/energy/water_heater_heat/page3.html
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Actually this URL starts at the beginning of the hot water tank as a heat source discussion on THE J OF LIGHT CONSTRUCTION site
http://www.jlconline.com/jlc/archive/energy/water_heater_heat/index.html
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Being one with 'creature comforts' in mind, I would suggest while you're on the topic of plumbing, you plan on putting in a washroom. When I built my shop I included a small washroom (sink, toilet, and shower stall) best idea I ever had, not only is the 'walk' shorter in cold weather, getting cleaned up BEFORE leaving the shop is a LOT nicer. Besides, 'she who does the cleaning' will appreciate it a lot too!! There are a few other things you may want to plan ahead for too, extra footings (under the slab) or anchor bolts for things like a crane, lift, or anvil, a pocket in the floor with a very stout eye-bolt for chaining things to the floor, invaluable for many tasks such as repairs or fabricating, or straightening things (handy in case of tornadoes too, just kidding!) Also include a couple extra pieces of conduit from the 'panel' area out beyond the pad for future use, putting them in now is nothing compared to what it would be like later. Best of luck.
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Here is a link to the kind of vehicle hoist I was refering to. I see it takes a 12' ceiling. http://www.homestead.com/advequip/files/y2kspecs.jpg
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Some good ideas Murf. I like the bathroom thought but will have to settle for just the plumbing for now, the building is too far from the house to connect to my septic system. I MAY sell my current house in time and build a smaller one back near where the barn will be, some 300 feet or so to the rear. Or maybe not. Moving the building closer is something I have to talk to the pro's about, I picked the highest point but could possibly have some dozer work done to move part of the hill (and then watch the cement floor crack as the fill settles). We have too much snow for me to be walking around trying to guess elevations, so that will be a call made in the future.
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Yep, you get the idea: If you can't build the bathroom at this time then that's OK. But don't let that stop you from putting the plumbing into the slab. Same for the hot water heat.
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Just because you are not close enough to the existing facilites, or don't wish to build a second system, does NOT mean you cannot have facilites in the shop. In most localities it is perfectly legal to have only a 'holding tank' which is, as the name suggests, merely a large tank buried in the yard, when it is full you call a contractor to pump it out, same as you do your septic tank. Also, a decent set of gutters will probably give you more than enough water to fill a buried cistern and suit your uses. A neighbour of mine did this about 5 years ago when he built his shop, in his case it was because he did not want to cut down a stand of trees that were where the tile field would have had to go. While he only has a sink & toilet in the shop, he has only had to pump it out once per year so far. He recently built a 'urinal' out of some stainless steel with a pipe which goes into a leach tank buried next to the shop, which he figures will save a little fluid capacity in the tank, and a little water from the storage tank. Occaisionally the water storage tank runs out in the coldest months, but he refills it from a water truck for very little money. Best of luck.
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